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Got an issue with my 819's runnin Larsen TT non UST. I keep losin air pressure in the front tire. The back is OK, just the front is leakin. When I converted the tire I didn'y use any rim tape on the rim, but both wheels have been set up the same so I don't think its that. Should I just add some more Stans and reseal? Anyone runnin standard tires on UST wheels with Stans?

Ok Stans experts, WTF am I doing wrong??? Setup is Mavic Crossmax SX UST rims w/ Michelin UST tires w/ 4 oz of Stans seated w/ my air compressor (not CO2) at the beginning of Feb. I didn't expect to see this crap when I dismounted the tire last night. Has Stans changed their formula w/ new bottles?

GP_pilot wrote:

Did it get really cold or really hot? Did it not get ridden for a long time?

Classic example of a Stan's "Booger"

Did you use any CO2's to pump it up at any time? Katonk makes a good point about the temperature as summer likes to make more"Booger" as the mold builder dries up.

So I went downstairs to see how my WSS Homebrew was doing, as I am am way more than pleased, at how it is sealing on the trail & rim.

No "Boogers" & no drying up & definitely coats the tire.

I made 80oz of the homebrew

Leaking how much? I've read that losing some air is normal with a std tire. Did you follow the shaking & rotating directions on the Stan's website? I have standard Nevegals on Crossmax UST rims. From what I've read, the std Nevs are supposed to be one of the harder to seal initially, but they were okay. I lose about 3-4 psi during the week, but I don't mind pumping a little more in for the weekend. I always checked before weekend rides with tubes too, but they usually needed none or just a couple psi. If you're losing significant air, like over the course of a ride, I think it makes sense to add & reseal.

OldDogDan wrote:

The tire was fine at first and then lately it would lose 10 PSI or so within a week. I soaped the tire and found some small leaks. Opened the bead and no more Stans liquid. Added some more Stans and did the whole shakey thing. Let it set applied some more shakey and let it set on the other side. Checked again with soapy water, no bubbles. Now two days later the tire is almost flat again. Maybe I didn't add enough Stans. I added 2 ounces. Just gonna add some more and see.

Author:	bajamtnbkr [ Wed Apr 08, 2009 8:14 pm ]
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The more I read this tread the more I like my trouble free and no high maintenance slime tubes

Author:	OldDogDan [ Wed Apr 08, 2009 8:23 pm ]
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02bullit wrote: Got an issue with my 819's runnin Larsen TT non UST. I keep losin air pressure in the front tire. The back is OK, just the front is leakin. When I converted the tire I didn'y use any rim tape on the rim, but both wheels have been set up the same so I don't think its that. Should I just add some more Stans and reseal? Anyone runnin standard tires on UST wheels with Stans? Leaking how much? I've read that losing some air is normal with a std tire. Did you follow the shaking & rotating directions on the Stan's website? I have standard Nevegals on Crossmax UST rims. From what I've read, the std Nevs are supposed to be one of the harder to seal initially, but they were okay. I lose about 3-4 psi during the week, but I don't mind pumping a little more in for the weekend. I always checked before weekend rides with tubes too, but they usually needed none or just a couple psi. If you're losing significant air, like over the course of a ride, I think it makes sense to add & reseal.

Author:	luna [ Thu Apr 09, 2009 6:54 am ]
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I've been rocking tubeless for over a year, & love it. Jose I have a ton of homebrew left if you want to try it.

Author:	luna [ Sun Apr 12, 2009 10:12 pm ]
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The ole homebrew worked great again this past weekend, Stuff is sealing up, like old Stan's stuff used too. Now will just have to see how long it last in the tire & also before its a booger in there.

Author:	Los [ Wed Apr 15, 2009 9:07 am ]
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Good info here Thanks peeps

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Author:	GP_pilot [ Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:17 am ]
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Ok Stans experts, WTF am I doing wrong??? Setup is Mavic Crossmax SX UST rims w/ Michelin UST tires w/ 4 oz of Stans seated w/ my air compressor (not CO2) at the beginning of Feb. I didn't expect to see this crap when I dismounted the tire last night. Has Stans changed their formula w/ new bottles?

Author:	katonk [ Thu Apr 16, 2009 12:45 pm ]
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GP_pilot wrote: Ok Stans experts, WTF am I doing wrong??? Setup is Mavic Crossmax SX UST rims w/ Michelin UST tires w/ 4 oz of Stans seated w/ my air compressor (not CO2) at the beginning of Feb. I didn't expect to see this crap when I dismounted the tire last night. Has Stans changed their formula w/ new bottles? Did it get really cold or really hot? Did it not get ridden for a long time?

Author:	GP_pilot [ Thu Apr 16, 2009 1:57 pm ]
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katonk wrote: GP_pilot wrote: Ok Stans experts, WTF am I doing wrong??? Setup is Mavic Crossmax SX UST rims w/ Michelin UST tires w/ 4 oz of Stans seated w/ my air compressor (not CO2) at the beginning of Feb. I didn't expect to see this crap when I dismounted the tire last night. Has Stans changed their formula w/ new bottles? Did it get really cold or really hot? Did it not get ridden for a long time? Well its probably seen a range of 40-90 degrees since done. Longest stretch that it hasn't been ridden is probably 3 weeks in the last 2 months since done.

Author:	luna [ Thu Apr 16, 2009 4:19 pm ]
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Classic example of a Stan's "Booger" Did you use any CO2's to pump it up at any time? Katonk makes a good point about the temperature as summer likes to make more"Booger" as the mold builder dries up. So I went downstairs to see how my WSS Homebrew was doing, as I am am way more than pleased, at how it is sealing on the trail & rim. No "Boogers" & no drying up & definitely coats the tire. I made 80oz of the homebrew

Author:	bajamtnbkr [ Thu Apr 16, 2009 7:22 pm ]
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Whatever you are cooking at home I don't think is legal, I guess you have to support that realtor lifestyle somehow this days luna wrote: Classic example of a Stan's "Booger" Did you use any CO2's to pump it up at any time? Katonk makes a good point about the temperature as summer likes to make more"Booger" as the mold builder dries up. So I went downstairs to see how my WSS Homebrew was doing, as I am am way more than pleased, at how it is sealing on the trail & rim. No "Boogers" & no drying up & definitely coats the tire. I made 80oz of the homebrew

Author:	luna [ Thu Apr 16, 2009 8:40 pm ]
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I swear the new Stan's is different. Darryl couldn't get his stuff to seal if he got a puncture on the trail & I thought he was just having bad luck.I didn't believe him, when he sweared Stan's wasn't the same anymore. I got some new Stan's a few months ago & it too didn't seal any punctures on the trails either. Punctures were tiny also. Has it changed, I don't know, I do know that recent purchases from Darryl & I of Stan's didn't seal punctures out on the trail. Jose I live in the Southbay, do you really think anyone cares. It says Mofle's Shop in front of my house anyways. Seriously the Homebrew gets one Thumbs up so far for how well it's been doing. Once I have long term with it I will give it either a double thumbs up or bust. For now it's working outstanding.

Author:	02bullit [ Tue Apr 21, 2009 9:36 pm ]
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OldDogDan wrote: Leaking how much? I've read that losing some air is normal with a std tire. Did you follow the shaking & rotating directions on the Stan's website? I have standard Nevegals on Crossmax UST rims. From what I've read, the std Nevs are supposed to be one of the harder to seal initially, but they were okay. I lose about 3-4 psi during the week, but I don't mind pumping a little more in for the weekend. I always checked before weekend rides with tubes too, but they usually needed none or just a couple psi. If you're losing significant air, like over the course of a ride, I think it makes sense to add & reseal. The tire was fine at first and then lately it would lose 10 PSI or so within a week. I soaped the tire and found some small leaks. Opened the bead and no more Stans liquid. Added some more Stans and did the whole shakey thing. Let it set applied some more shakey and let it set on the other side. Checked again with soapy water, no bubbles. Now two days later the tire is almost flat again. Maybe I didn't add enough Stans. I added 2 ounces. Just gonna add some more and see.

Author:	02bullit [ Tue Apr 21, 2009 9:40 pm ]
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luna wrote: Looks like that stuff they used to pour on people on Nickelodeon!

Author:	qpcr8tiv [ Tue Apr 21, 2009 9:41 pm ]
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02bullit wrote: OldDogDan wrote: Leaking how much? I've read that losing some air is normal with a std tire. Did you follow the shaking & rotating directions on the Stan's website? I have standard Nevegals on Crossmax UST rims. From what I've read, the std Nevs are supposed to be one of the harder to seal initially, but they were okay. I lose about 3-4 psi during the week, but I don't mind pumping a little more in for the weekend. I always checked before weekend rides with tubes too, but they usually needed none or just a couple psi. If you're losing significant air, like over the course of a ride, I think it makes sense to add & reseal. The tire was fine at first and then lately it would lose 10 PSI or so within a week. I soaped the tire and found some small leaks. Opened the bead and no more Stans liquid. Added some more Stans and did the whole shakey thing. Let it set applied some more shakey and let it set on the other side. Checked again with soapy water, no bubbles. Now two days later the tire is almost flat again. Maybe I didn't add enough Stans. I added 2 ounces. Just gonna add some more and see. I had that issue, I started putting in 2.5 oz and that seems to help. Also, if you use larger volume tire, it's good to put more in every 3 months or so.

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Author:	luna [ Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:01 am ]
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Here is my homebrew sealing the tire. Looks like I ran over dog shiat. She seals though.