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 Post subject: Re: Calaveras Trails
PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:39 pm 
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I'm on the same list. They ONLY send requests for their DG path maintenance in some park that doesn't matter. We could have made that trail right even with the little amount of rain we had last winter.

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Damn! Was there at least a CEQA permit posted?


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Damn! Was there at least a CEQA permit posted?


You assume they know what CEQA is and that CEQA pertains to them.....

They got an Education about that and thus the project shut down so quickly.

At Least Carlsbad acknowledged the issues and stopped work.

CDFW on the other hand continues to believe they are above and beyond the rules and anything they do is done in the name of policing against illegal Mtn Bike usage...


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Familiar with the trail but don’t get out that way very often any more. Anybody have additional pics to share? They do this to the whole trail segment?

What were ‘they’ trying to do?

What’s next on the list?

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 Post subject: Re: Calaveras Trails
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Familiar with the trail but don’t get out that way very often any more. Anybody have additional pics to share? They do this to the whole trail segment?

What were ‘they’ trying to do?

What’s next on the list?


I'll share another video of the trail in current condition (once I process it)

They did not do the entire trail, but nearly half, the most fun half...

I believe they were trying to get down to address a section in the middle that is heavily rutted and has some pretty deep sink holes.

What's next? Honestly don't know, but at the moment, they seem to have received and understood the message that they need to work with Trail users and do proper environmental impact studies in the future.

We have a Trail Work day Wed June 15th to repair as much as possible.


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I rode it yesterday and agree that they trashed it. Soft dirt and no longer single track in the upper section. I kind of liked the condition it was in as it made it a bit more challenging.

On another note, I got chased by Gardener Gabe yesterday. I was riding up to the pad and looked over and saw his white truck flying down the access road next to the church. Glad he didn't hit anyone. I picked up the pace and looked behind me as soon as I hit the pad and he was just getting to the top. He must have flying the entire time to get there that fast. I just smiled and dropped down the singletrack and never saw him again.


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I rode it yesterday and agree that they trashed it. Soft dirt and no longer single track in the upper section. I kind of liked the condition it was in as it made it a bit more challenging.

On another note, I got chased by Gardener Gabe yesterday. I was riding up to the pad and looked over and saw his white truck flying down the access road next to the church. Glad he didn't hit anyone. I picked up the pace and looked behind me as soon as I hit the pad and he was just getting to the top. He must have flying the entire time to get there that fast. I just smiled and dropped down the singletrack and never saw him again.


Speaking of bad faith actors in CHER.... does anyone have updates on Gabes trail runner buddy who keeps creating erosion paths on all the existing trails? I saw some pics of an interaction with the guy a few weeks ago but heard nothing since.


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 Post subject: Re: Calaveras Trails
PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2022 10:14 pm 
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I haven't heard anything about him, but there have been quite a few Gabe spottings recently. I haven't been able to go out during the day to see what's up.


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On another note, I got chased by Gardener Gabe yesterday.


I wonder why is was trying so hard to catch up to you. What is the purpose of him stopping trail users?
Pretty sure his truck does more damage than my fat azz on a eBike. Just ride em until you can't :cheers:

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On another note, I got chased by Gardener Gabe yesterday.


I wonder why is was trying so hard to catch up to you. What is the purpose of him stopping trail users?
Pretty sure his truck does more damage than my fat azz on a eBike. Just ride em until you can't :cheers:


Exactly, he probably wanted to catch me in his truck to tell me that I wasn’t allowed to ride my bicycle there. Makes no sense. If he did catch me, this would’ve been the third time that he’s stopped me out there riding. I just play dumb every time and ride away.

I have been stopped once by a ranger and he was actually cool. Pretty much told me that he was not happy to be out there since he had to drive down from Big Bear every day. He just told me where I was supposed to ride and where I couldn’t and asked me to head out of the Preserve. Said that he wasn’t planning on writing any tickets unless the mountain biker had an attitude.


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pperrelle wrote:
On another note, I got chased by Gardener Gabe yesterday.


I wonder why is was trying so hard to catch up to you. What is the purpose of him stopping trail users?
Pretty sure his truck does more damage than my fat azz on a eBike. Just ride em until you can't :cheers:



Yeah, I have never seen him or a ranger any of the times I ride out there. But if I did run into Gabe I would happily inform him of all the horrible erosion he is causing with his truck and his misguided attempts to modify existing trails. ALL of the bad erosion that has happened our there in the last few years is directly related to CDFW scaring away all the trail maintenance crews that were volunteering time to keep the erosion at bay. Now the best Erosion free trails are all south of CHER in Hollybrook/Canterini.

Gabe and crew are making the situation worse in CHER than it has been since 4x4's were allowed to romp around out there.


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 Post subject: Re: Calaveras Trails
PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2022 11:19 am 
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It's all OK, because anything Gabe and CDFW do is directly our fault because they wouldn't have to be out there if we weren't illegally riding and building trails.


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