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Author:  J.A.M. [ Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Calaveras Trails
I'm on the same list. They ONLY send requests for their DG path maintenance in some park that doesn't matter. We could have made that trail right even with the little amount of rain we had last winter.
Author:  Big Clyde [ Thu Jun 02, 2022 11:27 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Calaveras Trails
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Author:  socal_jack [ Sat Jun 04, 2022 10:36 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Calaveras Trails
Damn! Was there at least a CEQA permit posted?
Author:  325racer [ Sun Jun 05, 2022 8:00 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Calaveras Trails
socal_jack wrote:
Damn! Was there at least a CEQA permit posted?


You assume they know what CEQA is and that CEQA pertains to them.....

They got an Education about that and thus the project shut down so quickly.

At Least Carlsbad acknowledged the issues and stopped work.

CDFW on the other hand continues to believe they are above and beyond the rules and anything they do is done in the name of policing against illegal Mtn Bike usage...
Author:  ajdonner [ Sun Jun 05, 2022 2:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Calaveras Trails
Familiar with the trail but don’t get out that way very often any more. Anybody have additional pics to share? They do this to the whole trail segment?

What were ‘they’ trying to do?

What’s next on the list?
Author:  325racer [ Mon Jun 06, 2022 7:08 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Calaveras Trails
ajdonner wrote:
Familiar with the trail but don’t get out that way very often any more. Anybody have additional pics to share? They do this to the whole trail segment?

What were ‘they’ trying to do?

What’s next on the list?


I'll share another video of the trail in current condition (once I process it)

They did not do the entire trail, but nearly half, the most fun half...

I believe they were trying to get down to address a section in the middle that is heavily rutted and has some pretty deep sink holes.

What's next? Honestly don't know, but at the moment, they seem to have received and understood the message that they need to work with Trail users and do proper environmental impact studies in the future.

We have a Trail Work day Wed June 15th to repair as much as possible.
Author:  pperrelle [ Wed Jun 08, 2022 7:59 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Calaveras Trails
I rode it yesterday and agree that they trashed it. Soft dirt and no longer single track in the upper section. I kind of liked the condition it was in as it made it a bit more challenging.

On another note, I got chased by Gardener Gabe yesterday. I was riding up to the pad and looked over and saw his white truck flying down the access road next to the church. Glad he didn't hit anyone. I picked up the pace and looked behind me as soon as I hit the pad and he was just getting to the top. He must have flying the entire time to get there that fast. I just smiled and dropped down the singletrack and never saw him again.
Author:  klurejr [ Wed Jun 08, 2022 10:56 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Calaveras Trails
pperrelle wrote:
I rode it yesterday and agree that they trashed it. Soft dirt and no longer single track in the upper section. I kind of liked the condition it was in as it made it a bit more challenging.

On another note, I got chased by Gardener Gabe yesterday. I was riding up to the pad and looked over and saw his white truck flying down the access road next to the church. Glad he didn't hit anyone. I picked up the pace and looked behind me as soon as I hit the pad and he was just getting to the top. He must have flying the entire time to get there that fast. I just smiled and dropped down the singletrack and never saw him again.


Speaking of bad faith actors in CHER.... does anyone have updates on Gabes trail runner buddy who keeps creating erosion paths on all the existing trails? I saw some pics of an interaction with the guy a few weeks ago but heard nothing since.
Author:  325racer [ Wed Jun 08, 2022 10:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Calaveras Trails
I haven't heard anything about him, but there have been quite a few Gabe spottings recently. I haven't been able to go out during the day to see what's up.
Author:  Dirtrider [ Thu Jun 09, 2022 8:42 am ]
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pperrelle wrote:
On another note, I got chased by Gardener Gabe yesterday.


I wonder why is was trying so hard to catch up to you. What is the purpose of him stopping trail users?
Pretty sure his truck does more damage than my fat azz on a eBike. Just ride em until you can't :cheers:
Author:  pperrelle [ Thu Jun 09, 2022 5:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Calaveras Trails
Dirtrider wrote:
pperrelle wrote:
On another note, I got chased by Gardener Gabe yesterday.


I wonder why is was trying so hard to catch up to you. What is the purpose of him stopping trail users?
Pretty sure his truck does more damage than my fat azz on a eBike. Just ride em until you can't :cheers:


Exactly, he probably wanted to catch me in his truck to tell me that I wasn’t allowed to ride my bicycle there. Makes no sense. If he did catch me, this would’ve been the third time that he’s stopped me out there riding. I just play dumb every time and ride away.

I have been stopped once by a ranger and he was actually cool. Pretty much told me that he was not happy to be out there since he had to drive down from Big Bear every day. He just told me where I was supposed to ride and where I couldn’t and asked me to head out of the Preserve. Said that he wasn’t planning on writing any tickets unless the mountain biker had an attitude.
Author:  klurejr [ Fri Jun 10, 2022 10:31 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Calaveras Trails
Dirtrider wrote:
pperrelle wrote:
On another note, I got chased by Gardener Gabe yesterday.


I wonder why is was trying so hard to catch up to you. What is the purpose of him stopping trail users?
Pretty sure his truck does more damage than my fat azz on a eBike. Just ride em until you can't :cheers:



Yeah, I have never seen him or a ranger any of the times I ride out there. But if I did run into Gabe I would happily inform him of all the horrible erosion he is causing with his truck and his misguided attempts to modify existing trails. ALL of the bad erosion that has happened our there in the last few years is directly related to CDFW scaring away all the trail maintenance crews that were volunteering time to keep the erosion at bay. Now the best Erosion free trails are all south of CHER in Hollybrook/Canterini.

Gabe and crew are making the situation worse in CHER than it has been since 4x4's were allowed to romp around out there.
Author:  325racer [ Fri Jun 10, 2022 11:19 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Calaveras Trails
It's all OK, because anything Gabe and CDFW do is directly our fault because they wouldn't have to be out there if we weren't illegally riding and building trails.
Author:  OldDogDan [ Fri Sep 23, 2022 3:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Calaveras Trails
Bill lays down a rant, although I think it’s just a factual editorial. And please, no wanking. Ranting yes.



“Lack of management IS mismanagement” - MTB Bill.
Author:  klurejr [ Mon Sep 26, 2022 1:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Calaveras Trails
Added a comment to the video:


"Thanks Bill, been a fan of your work since I first discovered your website in the early 2000's when I moved to SD. I did not know you had a youtube channel, SUBSCRIBED! In 2008 my wife and I bought our first home and moved from SD up to Oceanside. A big part of the home choice was proximity to this riding area, I can pedal in with only a few min on pavement. I still live in the same house and try to hit these trails once a week in my own little protest of sorts. Just to add to your rant, CDFW is actually doing more harm to CHER than help with all their actions of the last few years. They took what was once a single track and turned it into a fireroad with a tractor of some sort, a few years later and there is now a giant erosion rut down the middle of said road because they REFUSE to do any erosion control. The biggest danger to wildlife in a "preserve" like this is Erosion of natural habitat. If all the habitat washes into the ocean there will be nothing left..... One top of that, much of CHER is littered with farming trash from when parts of the space was used for agriculture. No agency can walk into such a place and declare it an Ecological Reserve and just leave said trash in place. The land is covered is half buried plastic drip lines and old PVC water lines. All that plastic is harmful to the animals that live there and by leaving it in place the CDFW is proving to everyone that enters the property that CDFW has ZERO care for the plants or animals that live there. In your video we could see the overgrown Pampas Grass down in the valley below the water tower, that is an invasive species and would need to be removed to consider the place an ecological reserve. They also drive their 6000lb trucks all over the property leaving deep tire treads. There are tread marks in some sections that date back to over 4 years ago when they drove around after a large rain event. Permanently scaring the land. It really is shameful on their part. The easiest and BEST solution CDFW could do is to grant trail stewardship to the Calavera Trail Coalition, let us go out and establish permanent trails, put up trail markers, create a trail map and help rehabilitate the redundant trails back to nature. CTC would also fix all the major erosion points, places that have gone from small 3inch ruts to giant ruts that can swallow an entire person from head to toe. Allowing CTC to become the stewards we then have the power of riders policing other riders, stop the random building and create some organization. CTC is the best answer, CDFW should never have been put in charge of this precious riding area surrounded on 3 sides by thousands of homes full of outdoor enthusiasts. I don't think I have even run into you on the trails, but maybe someday I will. Keep up the good work!"
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