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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 11:17 am 
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Mediamatters is a bull___ organization and I did not quote Fox or anyone else above, other than Discovery News. Take off your kook left-wing lenses for once, please.


the quote extracted from media matters was from the lead scientist in the article explaining how it was misrepresented by the rush / fox media. as for your posting the discovery news article i thought that an odd entry in what you began as yet another anti-climate change, anti-gore thread as it would be foolish to relate that data to global warming. but apparently that is what was done.

in addition, don't you find it unsettling that fox is now reporting that wind turbines are creating a phenomenon that they have repeatedly beat the drum claiming doesn't exist?

let me just end by saying that endless derogatory remarks not only detract from the points that are attempted to be made, they also reflect poorly and bring down any meaningful discussion.

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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 11:20 am 
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"...endless derogatory comments..." Riiiiiight.

Unless you're living in the woods off the grid, this whole issue is POINTLESS.

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Huh, I guess this whole issue isn't bullsh__t. It's dinosaursh__t.


Giant dinosaurs could have warmed the planet with their flatulence, say researchers.

British scientists have calculated the methane output of sauropods, including the species known as Brontosaurus.

By scaling up the digestive wind of cows, they estimate that the population of dinosaurs - as a whole - produced 520 million tonnes of gas annually.

They suggest the gas could have been a key factor in the warm climate 150 million years ago.
David Wilkinson from Liverpool John Moore's University, and colleagues from the University of London and the University of Glasgow published their results in the journal Current Biology.

Sauropods, such as Apatosaurus louise (formerly known as Brontosaurus), were super-sized land animals that grazed on vegetation during the Mesozoic Era.

For Dr Wilkinson, it was not the giants that were of interest but the microscopic organisms living inside them.

"The ecology of microbes and their role in the working of our planet are one of my key interests in science," he told BBC Nature.

"Although it's the dinosaur element that captures the popular imagination with this work, actually it is the microbes living in the dinosaurs guts that are making the methane."

Methane is known as a "greenhouse gas" that absorbs infrared radiation from the sun, trapping it in the Earth's atmosphere and leading to increased temperatures.

Previous studies have suggested that the Earth was up to 10C (18F) warmer in the Mesozoic Era.

With the knowledge that livestock emissions currently contribute a significant part to global methane levels, the researchers used existing data to estimate how sauropods could have affected the climate.

Their calculations considered the dinosaurs' estimated total population and used a scale that links biomass to methane output for cattle.

"Cows today produce something like 50-100 [million tonnes] per year. Our best estimate for Sauropods is around 520 [million tonnes]," said Dr Wilkinson.

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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 12:03 pm 
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...and speaking of flatulence!


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Slowgrind wrote:
Huh, I guess this whole issue isn't bullsh__t. It's dinosaursh__t.
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So you're saying animals on the surface of the earth can produce emissions in significant enough quantities to produce a greenhouse effect -- thus warming the average temperature of the earth's climate?

I think the science is behind you on that claim, but you're going to find a few skeptics in your way.


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