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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 7:45 pm 
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I'm making a concerted effort to use my front brake primarily and to brake before (not in) a corner, but years of doing it wrong is making this harder than I thought it would be. Who on the board changes front pads as often or more often than rear pads?

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Kill my front first almost always. Usually the back are not far behind so typically I replace them at the same time.

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I use the rear brake very little. I think my rear brake pads are more inclined to rot than wear.

I'm still running BB7 mechanical brakes (yeah I'm a luddite). Every ride or two I need to adjust the front brake clearance due to advance the pads due to pad wear. I almost never touch the rear pad adjustments because the pads wear so slowly.

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I use the rear brake very little. I think my rear brake pads are more inclined to rot than wear.

I'm still running BB7 mechanical brakes (yeah I'm a luddite). Every ride or two I need to adjust the front brake clearance due to advance the pads due to pad wear. I almost never touch the rear pad adjustments because the pads wear so slowly.


Another luddite here. Actually, I have one bike with what are supposed to be decent hydros, but I like my BB7's on the Joker much more.

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I have that bad habit too. I think I'm afraid of another endo, and would rather pay for brake pads than break more body parts.

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Yes, I use up the front first as they get the hardest use. But I fairly often use some "trail braking" in corners, depending on the terrain -- rules are meant to be broken, and often are -- plenty of opinions on line by those skills guys. I do drag the rear more than I should or need to though. Even if I followed all the "rules" I'd still be slow...

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I have that bad habit too. I think I'm afraid of another endo, and would rather pay for brake pads than break more body parts.


I think that's my fear, too. Although on the last couple of rides, I have grabbed huge handfuls of front brakes and haven't felt even a hint of rear wheel lift. I've always used both brakes, but until recently I was more aggressive on the rear and would release the front brake first as I begin to pitch the bike into a turn.

Some of my braking habits may have to do with where I ride - a hard application of front brakes on loose cobbles makes the bike a lot harder to control than a hard application of rear brakes on the same terrain.

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Both wear evenly, I always run front but I love blowing cuting the rear tire loose.... It's a condition I have.


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I think it takes real conscious effort to break bad habits and learn good ones. If you google "MTB braking skills" you'll get at least a half dozen good sites, and it's worth reading several as they don't all give exactly the same advice, and one might have something you haven't heard before. Now to find the motivation to consciously apply it.

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I've only endo'ed once due to front braking (velo ergo endo). I was going down the Sycamore switchbacks (a few years back before it was shut down). I just rounded a corner and started to drift off the trail a bit so did a front brake correction over a small drop. The back wheel popped up into a nose wheelie. I remember thinking "oh shit... I can't apply more brakes, or I'll go over, and I can't let the bike run as I'm heading downhill on the trail". I actually rode the nose wheelie for about 15 feet until there was a large chaparral bush on the downhill side of the trail, and I rolled over into the bush. I got up laughing my ass off without even a scrape. I had no idea that I was able to do that under control. I've never had the balls to try a nose wheelie since.

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Going over the bars may have more to do with poor body position when braking or braking in the wrong portion of the trail.

Typically I go through probably 1.5 back pads before replacing the front pad.

There is so many different braking scenarios to really explain how a rider brakes. There are good general rules on using your brakes though that make using them safer where you shouldn't feel like you are going to go over the bars just to stop.


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Canaan wrote:
I'm making a concerted effort to use my front brake primarily and to brake before (not in) a corner, but years of doing it wrong is making this harder than I thought it would be. Who on the board changes front pads as often or more often than rear pads?

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Rear braking is what destroys trails.

Causes erosion, ruts, etc.

And, it doesn't work. It's dumb.

Use the front break and then get your ass behind the seat.

Our trails will thank you.

It's not about being old fashioned.

It's about being wrong and trashing our trails.

Please get OFF your reasr brake.



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Take the remove your rear brake challenge! All participants get a warm beer from Calavera!

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I must be doing something wrong...........

I use my rear brake all of the time............

And I don't skid.



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